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Re: Come OUT on Facebook

lenisi — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:23:14 -0000

i am not jaoining. don't want to be an atheist

Re: Come OUT on Facebook

hellobaby990 — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 05:16:06 -0000

Actually, I didn't get what is face book? Please explain in detail

Re: Come OUT on Facebook

faber112 — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:59:49 -0000

Thats a real nice app man! Thanks

Re: The Patience of an Atheist

Richard — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 16:38:07 -0000

Oh no, not religious at all. Been out of the church for some time now. I am definitely not defending their actions at all. It just doesn't take much foresight to see how they are going to respond. Chruches are not known for letting one of their 'flock' get away easily. If you'd left quietly you might have gotten one or two phone calls or visits over the next few years. Instead your own actions have caused a self-fulfilling prophecy that pretty much GUARANTEED the church would work as hard as possible to get you back into the fold.

Honestly you seem like intelligent people. If you weren't intelligent I could have accepted that you were acting in ignorance. If you want us to accept you as being intellectually honest, then you also have to admit that you knew the church would respond like they did. If you didn't think they were the type to respond like that you would never have felt the need to be removed from their 'list'. OBVIOUSLY you already knew they were the type to try bring their past members back into the church, so their actions are no surprise to anyone. Either you knew and you set this situation up, or you have learned less about your church in all your years there than we have just by reading this article.

Re: The Patience of an Atheist

chalkers — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 05:15:32 -0000

@Richard. I knew they wouldn't stop pestering us if we didn't remove our names. That's the whole idea of removing our names.

If your name is on their membership records they'll be planning every opportunity to reactivate you in their PEC meetings. They don't seem to get you if you say you don't believe it any more. They think 'deep down they still know'.

I expected them to act in the way we requested in the letter. I.E remove our names in 30 days and have no visits calls etc - that's what I would expect. I only reported the event's that occurred - never meant to come across as a 'victim'.

I am glad you've had a better experience exiting if in fact you are really an ex-member - since you were quite hostile and paranoid in your comment - typical behavior of a religious zealot.

Re: The Patience of an Atheist

Richard — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 02:38:02 -0000

Uhmmm... seriously, come on. How did you expect them to act?

You both seem like intelligent people, which means that you KNEW the type of response you'd get. You also knew that there is no harm in having your name on some registry from years ago that will never affect your life in any way. I'm sure your names are on a million lists from a million different memberships, agencies, groups, etc. I'm also sure this is the only one you've fought to get removed from. If you want to leave a church, you JUST LEAVE. That's what I did, and it's worked for me pretty well.

It's obvious you guys wanted to encourage this drama, so congrats. Mission accomplished.

It's the atheists like this that give the rest of us a bad name. You knew what you were doing, you knew what their response would be, and you set up this manipulative situation so that you could become a 'victim'.

Shame on both of you.

Re: The Patience of an Atheist

Jerry Clay — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 13:18:14 -0000

I had better luck than you,born into the LDS CHURCH(Utah). Received some education,stopped being religious. Moved,constantly harassed by missionairies tried to explain I was a member & helped a friend
prepare for a mission and I could ask you a question and tell you what you would answer. Don't come back-they did-then the Bishop did,said it was their duty-told them,I want to resign,typed a letter,signed it, two weeks later,got a official response-You are no longer a member of the church of Latter Day Saints,blah blah blah-no more problem-no more hassle-Peace

Re: The Patience of an Atheist

Matthew — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 14:44:37 -0000

Dude, just get over it and ignore them. If they harass you, file a restraining order. Not sure why you care if you're on their 'list' or whatever.

Re: The Patience of an Atheist

LiberalGeeks — Thu, 25 Dec 2008 12:43:09 -0000

I have the same question as Mike. Why does it matter if you're on their books or not? I'm an ex-Jehovah's Witness, and I don't have the desire to go through all the headaches of trying to remove myself from their membership list because I don't actually see any benefit to doing so. And in fact, if I ever decide to go into politics or something, it's useful to be able to claim that you at least belong to SOME sort of Christian religion.

And heck.....in the 0.00001% chance they're right, you might still be able to get into heaven on a technicality! Imagine the look of envy on everyone's faces when you stroll into heaven after your 'life of sin'! That's the cool thing about being an atheist....it's not a sin to 'game' the system. :-)

But seriously, judging by your letter, you knew they were going to give you a hard time, so I'm curious why you decided to try and do it anyway. Were you simply trying to make a point that the membership numbers of Mormons are inflated and not representative of their actual numbers? (That's a perfectly valid reason if so).

Re: The Patience of an Atheist

New Order Mormon — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:01:20 -0000

Wow Andrew, I have just come across this site via a link on an ex-mo site.

I am a mormon in your old stake who has seen through the bull s**t & who is currently trying to negotiate an exit, despite being married to a TMB. With us having children, I'm sure that you can appreciate how difficult & drawn out a process this may be.

We don't know each other personally but I heard about your exit, via a particularly pompous member of the Stake Presidency. I'm sure that you can guess which member that this was but if you need a clue, he was on both the last & the current presidencies.

Best wishes for the rest of your life, I am very envious of you!

Re: The Patience of an Atheist: Update

joshua maher — Sat, 31 May 2008 13:41:24 -0000

Chalkley,
Dude send me an email some time. looks like alot has happened with you but maybe we can catch up on some things.
-maher

Re: The Patience of an Atheist

Glen — Mon, 26 May 2008 01:55:55 -0000

Hello, Andrew,

Whoa! You are far more patient and polite than I. Past round two, I would have said (if I have the British vernacular right) "piss off." (Being an American, my preferred initial word would have started with "F.") Past that, I would have asked, "Please give me the name of your attorney, so that I can give it to mine, so that they can discuss "harassment"? And, oh, do you have a card, too? So that I can give it to BBC, the Telegraph, and others? I so dislike inaccurate spellings. Don't you?"

I can almost guarantee this insufferable, bloody twit would have vanished, as if in a puff of smoke.

As I said, you are far more patient and polite than I. You may need a course in American Rude, First Level. For some people, nothing else works.

Re: Expelled: The Movement’s Poll

chalkers — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:57:07 -0000

Anon, the poll was taken off of the Expelled: The Movement's my space page. They reject evolution and promote intelligent design. Due to the bias of their site you'd expect the poll results to be in favour of intelligent design whereas it's not. So I think a chuffing is in order.

The source of the poll is not this site by the ID supporting site. Sorry if I caused any confusion.

Re: Expelled: The Movement’s Poll

Anon — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 06:28:31 -0000

Hold up for a minute shall we? Not that I wouldn't have voted no, but this poll is from a website denouncing an intelligent design film. Do you really think that this is "something to be chuffed about"? I think perhaps it may be something to be chuffed about if the poll came from somewhere slightly less biased...

Re: I Wish I Was a Polygamist

Samuel Skinner — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 00:38:21 -0000

Bad news- polygamy sucks. I might not be a love bird like Darth Wang is, but there is a reason that even in societies where it is legal few do it. It is expensive, the infighting can be insane and keeping track of everyone becomes impossible. I'd rather have a holodeck or its equivalent to a polygamous marriage any day.

Re: Come OUT on Facebook

chalkers — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:44:03 -0000

Hi Josh,

I noticed that from time to time too.

I originally used the image from the OUT Campaign's website. I have mirrored it on my server now...hopefully that should sort it out.

You should see an improvement.

Re: Come OUT on Facebook

Josh Charles — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:40:53 -0000

Um, I loaded it up, but the gif wasn't displaying at all. Server issues?

Re: The Tautology of False Doctrine

chalkers — Mon, 15 Oct 2007 08:57:09 -0000

Nothing happened to me - I happened :) I hear you have acquired my e-Mail from Lucy. I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Re: The Tautology of False Doctrine

Jonathan Gill — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 08:11:57 -0000

What the heck has happened to you? E-mail me

Re: The Tautology of False Doctrine

chalkers — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:30:50 -0000

The statement is not "there is no truth".

It's "if there is no proof of an entity how can a doctrine be true (i.e. an accurate model of how things work) that comes from said entity? It cannot." It can be as only true as the being alleged to decree that doctrine. A theist's perquisite is to believe or have faith therefore it cannot be cut and dry and they cannot say what doctrine is false and true since it's only a belief. Belief operates outside of the parameters of true and false.

The only logical place to put oneself is outside of faith, belief, doctrine and religion and find the ever increasing reality based truth ourselves.

P.S. To say "There is no truth" is like a liar saying "I always lie" ;)

Re: The Tautology of False Doctrine

Sharon — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:34:58 -0000

Wait a minute...
The statement 'there is no truth' is inherently flawed.
If its true that there no truth, then the statement above is not true (it cannot be proven to be true) and therefore there is truth...
I don't think we have won the argument yet...
big hug
s

Re: The Tautology of False Doctrine

chalkers — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:51:44 -0000

Wouldn't have made a lengthy post :)

Re: The Tautology of False Doctrine

Bryden — Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:46:37 -0000

could be easily said as "all knowledge is flawed because all knowledge is man made, and man is flawed"

Took a lot of LSD to figure that out, glad you finally did too.

Re: The Patience of an Atheist

chalkers — Mon, 27 Aug 2007 12:48:49 -0000

No probs :)

Re: The Patience of an Atheist

Mike — Mon, 27 Aug 2007 12:41:16 -0000

I suppose I can see that. Thanks for the clarification.